Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
New Orleans just beat Indy and Manning and there is no way they do it without Brees' poise, leadership, arm, pocket presence, and everything else he brought to the table and to that team.
He is the real deal and is beyond reproach at this point. So, that is that...
I appreciate what he has done...and I especially appreciate what Sean Payton he done for NO. He was the architect from the get-go and he built a SB winner almost ala Jimmy Johnson like...but without the benefit of a huge allotment of draft picks like Jimmy.
So, I have absolutely no problem saying I was wrong and all I can hope for is to see our guy do something similar...but we aren't nearly as aggressive nor as savvy as Payton and Romo isnt Brees...but who knows. Things change and I still believe in Romo...
but for now, Romo isnt in Brees' class nor worthy of comparison.
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Jhalp wrote:
New Orleans just beat Indy and Manning and there is no way they do it without Brees' poise, leadership, arm, pocket presence, and everything else he brought to the table and to that team.
He is the real deal and is beyond reproach at this point. So, that is that...
I appreciate what he has done...and I especially appreciate what Sean Payton he done for NO. He was the architect from the get-go and he built a SB winner almost ala Jimmy Johnson like...but without the benefit of a huge allotment of draft picks like Jimmy.
So, I have absolutely no problem saying I was wrong and all I can hope for is to see our guy do something similar...but we aren't nearly as aggressive nor as savvy as Payton and Romo isnt Brees...but who knows. Things change and I still believe in Romo...
but for now, Romo isnt in Brees' class nor worthy of comparison.
Way to man up Jhalp. Sean Paytons call to try the onsides kick to start the second half was brillant. Brees played lights out. Sean rebuilt that team into a superbowl winner while Jerry continues to flounder like a fish out of water.
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Maybe this game will put Brees in the class of Peyton and Brady - lord knows he belongs there . The sportscasters at ESPN seem flummoxed and disoriented since they all expected a Colts win . In reality if the Saints didn't flame out a bit at the end of the year , it wouldn't have even been this close - it would've been a total rout of the Colts from the opening kickoff on . After they routed the Giants I saw them winning it all , but after winning a few close games and losing to us they were floundering and made the SB thanks to the turnover stupidity of Favre . But all that talent was still there and they used it to beat a vastly overrated Colts team . Manning the best QB ever ? I think not !
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Jhalp wrote:
New Orleans just beat Indy and Manning and there is no way they do it without Brees' poise, leadership, arm, pocket presence, and everything else he brought to the table and to that team.
He is the real deal and is beyond reproach at this point. So, that is that...
I appreciate what he has done...and I especially appreciate what Sean Payton he done for NO. He was the architect from the get-go and he built a SB winner almost ala Jimmy Johnson like...but without the benefit of a huge allotment of draft picks like Jimmy.
So, I have absolutely no problem saying I was wrong and all I can hope for is to see our guy do something similar...but we aren't nearly as aggressive nor as savvy as Payton and Romo isnt Brees...but who knows. Things change and I still believe in Romo...
but for now, Romo isnt in Brees' class nor worthy of comparison.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:44 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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Don't worry Jhalp. So was San Diego.
It wasn't Brees' play that caused San Diego to let him walk. It was the serious injury to his throwing shoulder that caused them to make that decision. Even the Dolphins were scared off by Brees' injury. Had it not been for that injury the Chargers would have resigned him and traded Rivers. Brees was a proven player and Rivers wasn't.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:00 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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It wasn't Brees' play that caused San Diego to let him walk. It was the serious injury to his throwing shoulder that caused them to make that decision. Even the Dolphins were scared off by Brees' injury. Had it not been for that injury the Chargers would have resigned him and traded Rivers. Brees was a proven player and Rivers wasn't.
Yeah, I know about the injury. SD was told he was done. So was Miami. NO docs said, "eh, maybe, maybe not", so after confering with BP, Payton took a shot and dice rolled 7s.
But I'm still not sure SD would have kept Brees. Brees had the down season when they brought Boston in and tried to force the ball to him (sound familiar - only this was to a WR the size of TE turning quickly into a DT LOL). Then he had his really good year without Boston when they got back to the "Brees friendly offense" LOL INW, letting him share it around. But I don't think they were sold. Brees was also coming up for a new contract soon AND Rivers, a first rounder, was just going into his 2nd year.
The injury sealed the deal, but I'm not overly sure the deal hadn't already been decided.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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Yeah, I know about the injury. SD was told he was done. So was Miami. NO docs said, "eh, maybe, maybe not", so after confering with BP, Payton took a shot and dice rolled 7s.
But I'm still not sure SD would have kept Brees. Brees had the down season when they brought Boston in and tried to force the ball to him (sound familiar - only this was to a WR the size of TE turning quickly into a DT LOL). Then he had his really good year without Boston when they got back to the "Brees friendly offense" LOL INW, letting him share it around. But I don't think they were sold. Brees was also coming up for a new contract soon AND Rivers, a first rounder, was just going into his 2nd year.
The injury sealed the deal, but I'm not overly sure the deal hadn't already been decided.
The facts are Brees was keeping Rivers on the bench and there's nothing I've seen from Brees' play since that tells me Rivers would have ever gotten an opportunity. The Chargers had no idea if Rivers would pan out and he had alot of trade value. Brees was only 28 years in 06 and as good as he was playing I see no way the Chargers would have allowed a healthy Drew Brees to walk and risk their future on a young raw QB who they weren't sure could play at the same level as Brees. Naturally I'm speculating but Brees was young and he was playing very good football for San Diego that's why Rivers was on the bench and it's why the Saints took the risk and signed Brees with that shoulder.
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Jhalp wrote:
New Orleans just beat Indy and Manning and there is no way they do it without Brees' poise, leadership, arm, pocket presence, and everything else he brought to the table and to that team.
He is the real deal and is beyond reproach at this point. So, that is that...
I appreciate what he has done...and I especially appreciate what Sean Payton he done for NO. He was the architect from the get-go and he built a SB winner almost ala Jimmy Johnson like...but without the benefit of a huge allotment of draft picks like Jimmy.
So, I have absolutely no problem saying I was wrong and all I can hope for is to see our guy do something similar...but we aren't nearly as aggressive nor as savvy as Payton and Romo isnt Brees...but who knows. Things change and I still believe in Romo...
but for now, Romo isnt in Brees' class nor worthy of comparison.
Classy post old friend. You're TheProphet's kind of guy. Some around here would be wise to follow your lead.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:17 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Romo still has a shot at rising to Brees' level, he made some strides this season...
As for the game, NO's defense played a great game especially their DBs. I felt like both QBs would have good games and both teams would score over 30 points,,, NO did and Indy didn't.
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
Now if the idiots in the sporting media would only admit that they were wrong about Frankenstein head Manning being the best NFL QB ever . It's how you play in the one game that matters most , not how well you play in the regular season that defines the title of best ever . Manning might best the Rex Grossmans of the world in the SB , but when he's outplayed by the other QB he chokes . He's done it many times before in the playoffs and he did it again yesterday !
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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The facts are Brees was keeping Rivers on the bench and there's nothing I've seen from Brees' play since that tells me Rivers would have ever gotten an opportunity. The Chargers had no idea if Rivers would pan out and he had alot of trade value. Brees was only 28 years in 06 and as good as he was playing I see no way the Chargers would have allowed a healthy Drew Brees to walk and risk their future on a young raw QB who they weren't sure could play at the same level as Brees. Naturally I'm speculating but Brees was young and he was playing very good football for San Diego that's why Rivers was on the bench and it's why the Saints took the risk and signed Brees with that shoulder.
Still, doesn't matter. They were wrong. They were wrong with his prognosis, they were wrong with where his career would go. They were wrong.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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Still, doesn't matter. They were wrong. They were wrong with his prognosis, they were wrong with where his career would go. They were wrong.
No one knew what the prognosis would be not even Brees was sure. Didn't you hear his interview during the SB pregame? We're talking about major shoulder surgery on a QB's throwing shoulder who's contract was going to be up. You're making it sound like the Chargers let Brees walk because they gave up on him as "player". LOL Brees' play was keeping Rivers on the bench he wasn't going anywhere had he not injured his shoulder. The Chargers had an extremely difficult decision to make because Brees's contract was up and it was going to take alot of money to resign him and they were already paying Rivers some good money who they invested a top 5 pick on 2 years earlier. Even the Dolphins were scared off by Brees' shoulder and opted for an injured Culpepper. Nothing scares teams more than elbow or shoulder surgery on a QB's throwing arm. The Chargers had to make a decision and they took the safe route with a "healthy" young QB who was already under contract.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: I was wrong about Romo and Brees...
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Still, doesn't matter. They were wrong. They were wrong with his prognosis, they were wrong with where his career would go. They were wrong.
You said "
Yeah, I know about the injury. SD was told he was done. So was Miami. NO docs said, "eh, maybe, maybe not", so after confering with BP, Payton took a shot and dice rolled 7s." So what were the Chargers suppose to do after hearing the news Brees was "done" resign him to a lucrative longterm deal? Even the Saints doctors said they weren't sure of his prognosis. The Saints took the gamble because they had SHIT at QB and it paid off.
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Even the Saints doctors said they weren't sure of his prognosis. The Saints took the gamble because they had SHIT at QB and it paid off.