Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Congrats to the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XNAVY wrote:
Payton with a gutsy onsides kick to start the second half. Jerry has to be wondering how in the hell he let Sean Payton get away.
Yeah...Payton has been outstanding in NO...from day 1, he was aggressive, took risks, aggressively made trades, hired great coaches, coughed up money out of his own pocket, called onside kicks in the SB, and like Brees, Bush, and many of his players gave back so much to the community there in New Orleans.
When the story is told about the 2009 Saints, it will start with Payton going there, signing an injured Brees, taking over the 2nd worst team in the league and guiding them to the NFC CHampionship game with one of the most explosive offenses in the league.
Drew Brees was good in SD...but he wasnt great until he went to work with Payton.
All hyperbole aside, Payton is this generations Jimmy Johnson, imo.
Utter f'n brilliance personified...
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Congrats to the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XNAVY wrote:
Payton with a gutsy onsides kick to start the second half. Jerry has to be wondering how in the hell he let Sean Payton get away.
I'm still wondering why that dumbfuck let Jimmy Johnson get away ! Instead of letting his ego get in the way , he should have just put it aside and signed Jimmy for 10 more years like Murchison did with Tom Landry . The obvious difference being Landry coaching a losing team and Johnson coaching a team that just won two fucking championships ! Jerry is an asshole giving us more of a tease than the reality of a well built and well coached team !
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Congrats to the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XNAVY wrote:
Payton with a gutsy onsides kick to start the second half. Jerry has to be wondering how in the hell he let Sean Payton get away.
I give him credit, but he was also just fuck lucky there. I don't know the name of the Colts player but he should have had that easily. Payton also went for it on 4th and goal and came up with nothing.
Don't get me wrong, he did a really good job, but I'm not going to throw his name in with great coaches in history because of the Colt's (and Vike's for that matter) mishaps.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Congrats to the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Rumor Alert*
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First, it wasn't as much a gutsy call as it was a calculated call.
Sean Payton advised the officials before the game that he may try an on-sides kick.
What he saw on film was that the left side of the front line of the Colts receiving team liked to cheat a little and would always turn and run before the ball was kicked instead of waiting for the ball to go over their heads.
Film study...not "Gut's and Glory". Payton saw an opportunity and took it. It worked. Blame the Colts for bad special team’s discipline as much as praising Payton for a “gutsy” call.
Just waiting on a link or vid to substantiate this claim...
In the middle of the rolling party, someone else piped up: "Can you believe we called that onside kick?''
Oh, I can. It had Sean Payton written all over it.
It's the Super Bowl, and I'm going to write about an onside kick, and about two absolute nobodies who so powerfully influenced the outcome of the biggest game in the history of the New Orleans Saints.
That's one of the reasons football's such a great game. The 45th guy on the roster can make the play of the day in the biggest game of the year. David Tyree did it in Super Bowl 42. Chris Reis, with help from a very nervous kicker, did it in Super Bowl 44.
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"Ambush,'' Payton said cavalierly, almost diffidently, as he walked by kickoff man Thomas Morstead in the Saints locker room at halftime Sunday night.
Perfect. Ambush. That's the name of the Saints' onside kick, the one that continued the Colts' downfall in Super Bowl 44. The reason it's so perfect is that it's right for Payton, and right for this derring-do team with the cocky defensive coordinator and the only slightly less cocky head coach and players and fans who have yearned for so long to deserve to be cocky. In this case, Ambush was so mind-blowing because:
a. Morstead never attempted an onside kick in a game before Sunday night in his life.
b. Morstead never practiced onside-kicking until 12 days ago.
c. Morstead can be a bundle of nerves.
And so Payton walked by Morstead's locker and dropped that little bomb on him, and he told the rest of the special-teams leaders, and 25 minutes still were left before the start of the second half. Morstead sat at his locker, looked straight ahead and tried to keep his heart from pounding out of his chest.
"I wasn't worried,'' Morstead said later. "I was terrified. He dropped it on me near the start of halftime, not near the end, and it's such a long halftime. All I could think of was how stupid I'd look if the kick doesn't go 10 yards, or if I blow it.''
When the Saints looked at the Colts on tape, they saw two up-men on the front line of the Indy kick-return team cheating. That is, when the kicker approached the ball, two guys on the right of the kick-return unit -- as the kickoff team looked ahead, to the left -- turned and began retreating to set up their blocks for a return just before the ball was kicked. So when Payton saw this, he figured the Saints would definitely try an onside kick at some point of the game.
In each of their three practices last week, the Saints worked on the onside kick five times. They christened it "Ambush'' for the element of surprise, obviously. And they practiced it the same way every time: with Morstead, the neophyte, approaching the ball from the left, as right-footed soccer-style kickers do, and kicking the ball almost across his body to the left, to the exact spot where the Saints thought the two Colts would be leaving early. Payton knew he wouldn't try the kick early in the game; he wanted time to set the Colts up. Before the game, he made a point to talk to ref Scott Green and his crew to be on the lookout for it so they wouldn't be surprised, and so they'd be ready to determine possession in the inevitable scrum.
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Congrats to the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey...didn't that Sean Payton dude used to have a coaching position with the Dallas Cowboys? But Jed let him walk...only to hire Staypuft a year later? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
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