Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
If there was ever a game set and match, this is it.
This article just popped up on Dallascowboys.com
Besides the coaching staff and the team, several beat writers also agree that the KC game was more important then the NO game for the team.
IRVING, Texas - This past season, the Cowboys had a pair of games that not only turned around the season, but might have a lasting effect on this franchise down the road.
Both of the wins in Kansas City and New Orleans could turn out to be not just exciting and memorable victories, but crucial to the shape of the Cowboys' future.
So looking back over the last 20 years, since Jerry Jones bought the team in 1989, here's my opinion of the 10 most important regular-season games of the past two decades. OK, so why regular season? Well, it's simple. We all know that nothing compares to the playoffs.
The best win, the worst loss, the best moment - they all come in the playoffs. That's when things matter the most, of course. Then again, we all know the playoffs are rather trivial if you don't take care of the necessary business in the regular season.
So here goes a list of 10 regular season games. Now remember, this isn't the 10 best regular-season games since 1990. It's not the 10 most exciting games either. And they're not all victories.
These are 10 games in the regular season that shaped either the rest of that season or even a few years down the road.
As always, you can never trim down to 10, so here are a few honorable mentions:
Honorable Mention:
at Carolina, 2006 - Bill Parcells decided it was time for a change and replaced Drew Bledsoe as the starter with Tony Romo against the Panthers on Sunday Night Football in Carolina. Romo responded by passing for 279 yards as the Cowboys saved their season with a 35-14 win over the Panthers.
at Philadelphia, 1996 - With Michael Irvin expected to return from a five-game suspension for his drug charges that kept him out for the start of the season, the Cowboys were staring at a 1-4 record unless they could upset the Eagles on Monday night in Philly. Thanks to some big plays from Herschel Walker in the return game and Deion Sanders on both offense and defense, the Cowboys rallied to win, 23-19. Irvin returned the next week and the Cowboys went on to capture their fifth straight NFC East title and finish 10-6.
vs. Denver, 2005 - Thanksgiving Day games are always memorable, but had the Cowboys been able to overcome the Broncos, it would've put them at 8-3 with a four-game winning streak. But Terence Newman dropped an interception that would've resulted in a go-ahead touchdown with seven minutes to play. Ron Dayne ripped off a huge run in overtime as the Broncos escaped with a 24-21 win. The Cowboys spiraled downward and finished 9-7 to miss the playoffs for the second straight year.
at LA Rams, 1990 - If 1-15 in 1989 wasn't bad enough, the Cowboys were staring at another rough year in 1990, sitting at 3-7 in mid-December. Coming off a home loss to the 49ers that saw rookie Emmitt Smith have just six carries, the rookie and head coach Jimmy Johnson spoke up, stating how important it was to keep the running game involved. Smith touched the ball 25 times the next week against the Rams, producing 171 offensive yards as the Cowboys upset Los Angeles, 24-21, to ignite a four-game winning streak in which Smith received at least 20 carries in all four games.
10 Crucial Regular-Season Games Since 1990:
10. at Arizona, 2008 - When it starts bad and ends bad, then it must be bad. Make no mistake, there weren't many positives, both short- and long-term that came out of the Cowboys' 30-24 overtime loss to the Cardinals. If it wasn't clear the special teams needed some help before that game, it was rather evident then, after Arizona not only returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown, but finished the game in overtime with a blocked punt returned for a touchdown, the first-ever blocked punt to finish an NFL game. More than a defeat, the Cowboys lost Tony Romo for three games with a broken finger and Felix Jones never played another snap that season suffering from a hamstring injury and then later needing toe surgery. The Cowboys dropped to 4-2 that day, but it sent a message that the rest of the season would be a struggle. Dallas eventually missed the playoffs by a game, finishing 9-7.
9. vs. Philadelphia, 2006 - Sitting right there in front of them, all the Cowboys had to do was hold serve at home, beat the Eagles on Christmas Day, and they would be crowned NFC Champions and the joyous ride on the back of young Tony Romo would've continued into the playoffs. Instead, the Cowboys lost to the Jeff Garcia-led Eagles, 23-7, gift-wrapping the division title for their rivals, who had been left for dead at 5-6 with Donovan McNabb lost for the season. But Philly rallied to win its last five games, including a season-sweep over the Cowboys. Had Dallas won that game, they win the division and host a playoff game. Instead, they lose yet again to lowly Detroit the final week, and then in Seattle when Romo botched the field goal snap that could've won the game. Bill Parcells decided to step down from coaching after that season, but you wonder if things would've been different had the Cowboys won that game, the division and hosted a playoff game.
8. at NY Giants, 2003 - After three straight 5-11 seasons, things were supposed to get turned around under Bill Parcells in 2003. However, losing the first game of the season to Atlanta, it didn't look so promising for the Cowboys as they traveled up to play the Giants on Monday Night Football in a homecoming of sorts for Parcells. But the Cowboys played inspired football and jumped to a 23-7 lead and then had to rally in the fourth quarter just to force overtime. Quincy Carter and Antonio Bryant hooked up for a 25-yard reception in the final seconds of regulation that set up Billy Cundiff's game-tying 52-yard field goal, his sixth of the game. Cundiff then won it in overtime on a 25-yarder, giving Parcells his first win with the Cowboys. And the victory sparked a five-game winning streak that resulted in a 10-6 season and the team's first playoff appearance in four years.
7. at New Orleans, 2009 - The Saints didn't have to go on and win the Super Bowl for this game to be important for the Cowboys, who entered the mid-November game on the ropes and waiting to be knocked out. And what better team to deliver such a blow than the Saints, who were scoring at will and entered the game 13-0 with dreams of an undefeated season. The Cowboys had other ideas and it was clear from the very start. The Cowboys hadn't scored a touchdown on their first offensive possession in 13 games that year but marched right down and took a 7-0 lead on Romo's 49-yard touchdown to Miles Austin. The Cowboys actually led 17-3 at halftime and then 24-3 after driving again on their first possession of the third quarter. As expected, Drew Brees and the Saints rallied to make it interesting, but the Cowboys got a huge sack and forced fumble from DeMarcus Ware to seal the win in the closing seconds. Ware had been carted off the field on a stretcher the week before with a scary neck injury but returned to not only play, but come up with two sacks and two forced fumbles. The Cowboys used that win to ignite a four-game winning streak that lasted into the playoffs.
6. at NY Giants, 1995 - In one play, they were back. That's all it took on a Monday night game at the Meadowlands in 1995 to show the Cowboys were back for yet another title run. Winners of two straight Super Bowls in 1992 and 1993, the Cowboys just missed a chance to win three straight in a bitter loss to the 49ers in the previous NFC Championship Game. Doubts, question marks and other uncertainties lingered over the Cowboys and even Emmitt Smith. But with one play - a 60-yard touchdown on his first carry of the season - it was clear the Cowboys were back and meaning business yet again. The Cowboys completely thrashed the Giants, 35-0, thanks to four touchdowns by Smith, who rushed for 163 yards. The Giants were held to just 211 total yards while the Cowboys completely owned the night. Smith went on to rush for 25 touchdowns - setting an NFL record at the time and the Cowboys eventually cruised to a Super Bowl XXX victory. Also, that game proved big for the signing of Deion Sanders. While discussions were already in the works to possibly sign the flashy free agent cornerback, the move went from a luxury to a need when Kevin Smith tore his Achilles in the first half against the Giants. Sanders was signed the following week.
5. vs. Philadelphia, 2000 - Just like Emmitt Smith set the tone for the season on the first play of the first game, the Eagles did the same to the Cowboys in 2000, in the hottest regular season game the Cowboys have ever played. With a kickoff temperature of 109 degrees, and the thermometer even hotter on the Texas Stadium turf, the Eagles stunned the Cowboys and new head coach Dave Campo from the opening play, covering a surprise onside kick to start the game. From there, Duce Staley ran wild against the Cowboys, rushing for 201 yards - the first of three backs that season to eclipse the 200-yard mark. To make matters worse, the Cowboys' featured off-season addition - Joey Galloway - injured his knee late in the fourth quarter and missed the entire season. Troy Aikman suffered another concussion and missed the next two games. Whether it was the beginning of the season, the Campo era or even the decade, it's hard to top the 41-14 loss to the Eagles.
4. at Washington, 1991 - See if this one sounds familiar. The Cowboys enter a game late in the season, losers of two straight and facing an undefeated team on the road. Yet, somehow, the Cowboys come together that day, facing all kinds of adversity, and find a way to claw and scratch for a shocking upset. Some 18 years before the Cowboys pulled off that trick in New Orleans, they did the same to the Redskins back in 1991 when Washington was 11-0. But the Cowboys pulled out every trick in the book, and needed a heroic performance from backup quarterback Steve Beuerlein, who replaced an injured Troy Aikman, to lead the Cowboys to a 24-21 win. Before Aikman's injury, he executed a "Hail Mary" touchdown to end the first half and then recovered an onside kick to start the second half. And let's not forget Emmitt Smith, who rushed for 132 yards and a touchdown, while Michael Irvin caught nine passes for 130 yards and a key touchdown in the fourth quarter. It was arguably the biggest and most impressive win in the first three years of the Jerry/Jimmy era. From that game, the Cowboys won out, winning the next four games to finish 11-5, and then posting an upset win over the Bears in the Wild Card round before a tough loss in Detroit. Of course, the Cowboys won the next two Super Bowls, but it's often been said that it all began right there in Washington back in 1991.
3. at Philadelphia, 1999 - They say it takes one play to change a game. How about a season or even a dynasty? Say what you want about Michael Irvin and his off-the-field issues, but he was the heart and soul of the Cowboys' teams in the 1990s. So when he was tackled on that rainy day in 1999, his head slamming into the Veterans Stadium turf, not only was his season and career over, but the Cowboys as we knew them in the 1990s were over, too. The Cowboys were 3-0 for the first time since 1995 and looked the part to make another Super Bowl run. But Irvin, who was a catalyst in the Cowboys' 41-35 overtime win over Washington to open the season, injured his neck on a freak play over the middle. He was carted off the field and would never play another down in the NFL. The Cowboys managed to take a 10-0 lead over the Eagles, who were 0-3 to begin the Andy Reid era, but the wheels came clean off in the fourth quarter and the Eagles, behind quarterback Doug Pederson, rallied for a 13-10 win. The Cowboys seesawed the entire season, finishing 8-8 and sneaking into the playoffs as a Wild Card team, only to get hammered by the Vikings.
2. at Kansas City, 2009 - The Cowboys were 2-2 after dropping a pair of tough games against Denver and the Giants in the inaugural game of Cowboys Stadium. It seemed the winless Chiefs were the perfect opponent for a Cowboys team in need of a quick turnaround. But because this team had already been embarrassed a year earlier to a poor St. Louis squad, the memory of that game lingered as the Cowboys returned to the state of Missouri. And for a while, it appeared they were destined for similar results. The Cowboys were fumbling, dropping passes, missing field goals and committing careless penalties. The Chiefs had the Cowboys on the ropes with a 10-0 lead before a star was born. Miles Austin, starting his first career game because of a Roy Williams injury, stole the show and the game from the Chiefs. Austin recorded 250 yards, including the game-winning touchdown in overtime to beat Kansas City, 26-20. The win ignited a four-game winning streak and propelled the Cowboys to an 11-5 season and return trip to the playoffs. It was just the beginning for Austin, who made his first Pro Bowl and now appears to be the team's receiver of the future.
1. at NY Giants, 1993 - Win the game and you get a first-round bye and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Lose and you hit the road for the playoffs, making a title defense that much tougher. Emmitt Smith, with a separated shoulder that he suffered in the second quarter, carried the Cowboys to a 16-13 overtime win over the Giants in the 1993 regular-season finale at the Meadowlands. Smith, fighting through obvious pain, rushed for 163 yards, and caught 10 passes for 61 yards and a touchdown, willing the Cowboys to victory. Eddie Murray booted a 41-yard field goal in overtime, giving the Cowboys their second straight NFC East title and home-field throughout the playoffs. The Cowboys went on to win Super Bowl XXVIII for back-to-back titles, but you have to wonder how things might have been different if the Cowboys had to take their playoff act on the road, especially having to play the next week with Emmitt Smith banged up.
So, there're 10 of the important regular-season games of the last 20 years. I'm sure there are some games left off the list. What one person deems important, another one might not. But it's hard to argue these 10 games not only shaped the season but the overall state of the franchise for many years to come.
And with two of those 10 games coming in 2009, you have to wonder where the Kansas City and New Orleans games will take the Cowboys in 2010 and beyond.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
I know, Roy. But forget what those who actually play for the team, coach the team, or who have access to the team think...they don't matter. KJJ doesnt see it so it must not be true.
Anyway, all anyone has to do is watch this clip below to remember that day and it's importance and what would follow. Instead of us being 2-3, losing 3 out 4 games, heading into a bye, the HC probably getting fired, our season falling apart, and us not knowing if Miles Austin could play or start or not because they had him on the bench pretty much,.....instead of all of that....
we would save our season, win 5 of our next 6 games incl the KC game, and even take over first place in the division.......and our Defense would find itself also that day.
And even though we would lose 3 more games that season, it still set us up for our best season in 13 years or whatever it was.
The NO game was great...but the eventual thumping we took in Minny wouldl negate some of its historical impact and thus, that is why KC is and will be remembered as the more historically impactful game....and as you said....
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
Since Dallas was drubbed out of the playoffs via a humiliation at Minnesota, the two victories above don't mean dick. All they did was result in worse draft position, and put the Cowboys at a disadvantage in signing free agents (playoff teams given extra limits in free agency).
If this team can't compete for a Superbowl, the rest is just a verbal cicle jerk.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
Danderoo_17 wrote:
Since Dallas was drubbed out of the playoffs via a humiliation at Minnesota, the two victories above don't mean dick. All they did was result in worse draft position, and put the Cowboys at a disadvantage in signing free agents (playoff teams given extra limits in free agency).
If this team can't compete for a Superbowl, the rest is just a verbal cicle jerk.
LOL........great input. LOL
Your right.............going 3-13 or going 11-5 are the same thing. And going 11-5 winning the the NFC East, proving they can play big in December, and winning a playoff game doesnt mean much either.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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LOL........great input. LOL
Your right.............going 3-13 or going 11-5 are the same thing. And going 11-5 winning the the NFC East, proving they can play big in December, and winning a playoff game doesnt mean much either.
Thats NOT progress. LOL
And none of that is competing for a SB either.
It all depends what gets carried into next year. If they come out and take off where they left off (minus the Vikings loss) then those games will have meant a great deal. But if they don't, then no, those games didn't mean squat except for a momentary uplift.
I've seen too many teams seemingly take a step forward one year, just to come out the next having forgotten everything they learned.
Does it give me hope for the future? Of course. But I'm realistic enough to realize that stuff doesn't just naturally carry forward to the next season. Sometimes the gains are just lost during the off-season somewhere. Hopefully that doesn't happen here. If we had a HC I felt more confident in.......
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
CowboyRoy wrote:
LOL........great input. LOL
Your right.............going 3-13 or going 11-5 are the same thing. And going 11-5 winning the the NFC East, proving they can play big in December, and winning a playoff game doesnt mean much either.
Thats NOT progress. LOL
And none of that is competing for a SB either.
Have to agree with you here, Roy. There is a time when making the playoffs just to lose is not productive. That is when you are building your talent base through the draft. We are not doing that now. I think we have the team to win a championship. My problem is I don't think we have the coaching staff to make that happen.
So, making the playoffs and winning a game was important to the maturation of this team, because this is the team that we will swim or drawn with. They need to learn how to swim. I think they did that this season.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Have to agree with you here, Roy. There is a time when making the playoffs just to lose is not productive. That is when you are building your talent base through the draft. We are not doing that now. I think we have the team to win a championship. My problem is I don't think we have the coaching staff to make that happen.
So, making the playoffs and winning a game was important to the maturation of this team, because this is the team that we will swim or drawn with. They need to learn how to swim. I think they did that this season.
I think last year was completely different then 2008. And not just because of the health or the record. This team made big changes in personelle, attitude, chemistry, and player and coaches attitudes. And we did all this by getting younger and playing alot of our youth.
That being said, I am not convinced we have the squad to win a championship. The Defense is definitely close to that point. The offense is potent, but to be a championship caliber O, this Oline needs to be infused with some youth and talent.
I think coaching is also a maturation process. Garrett is good, but he is new tp all this and learning on the way also. I see strides in how he used personelle and in his playcalling as the year went along.
Same with Wade. He changed up the way he did things this year and it worked better. 3rd year in the system with HIS type of players on defense made a big difference. This was the big year for the coaches and I saw progress. Progress is A#1 in my book. We had progress in many areas. NOt to mention we found a legit #1 receiver almost out of thin air. That was a amazing. If this line can become dominant with some youth, I see us becoming a prime force for years with this group. But in order to do that, we need to hit a home run with a rookie tackle first round pick and we need another top notch guard also. Next year, we need to dump Roy, and take his cash and sign a top flight Guard in FA that has some youth. Kosier and Flozel need to be replaced with Talented young studs. We do that, and this line can be dominant. Columbo can hold down the RT job with Free taking over in a year or two and in the meantime being a backup at both spots.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Still defending your homer buddy on a game that got you so pissed you started a thread ripping the coaches and players calling it one of the worst performances you've ever seen. You posted an article of a staff writer giving their opinion and you think that makes them right? They even said what one person deems important one might not. Everyone has an opinion and they would all differ on this topic. If you had a round table discussion with several staff writers asking them to pick the 10 most defining games of the past decade some would omit certain games and all their rankings would differ because it's an OPINION! Mark my word if the Cowboys go on to win the SB next season Jhalp will be back on here calling me a douche crediting the KC win for our championship. LOL Anything to try and vindicate himself. By the way you might want to hold up calling the article you posted "a game-set-match" because here's the article by another staff writer that started this entire debate. They're giving their OPINION on the most defining games of the past decade and they didn't even list the KC game...LMAO! It all comes down to which staff writer you agree with I agree with this one. LOL
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Story Of A Decade: These 10 Games Defined The 2000s For The Cowboys
IRVING, Texas - How's this for irony, or symmetry, or both:
In what was the most considerable dry spell in team history, an entire decade without a single playoff win, the Cowboys actually qualified for the playoffs in their first game of the 2000s, and the last.
In the first, Chan Gailey's 1999 Cowboys secured an 8-8 season and Wild Card berth by beating the New York Giants 26-18 at Texas Stadium on Jan. 2, 2000. In the last, Wade Phillips' team extended its future by at least one more week, shutting out Washington 17-0 on Sunday.
This is the story of everything that happened in between, in chronological order, for better or worse, the 10 games that made the decade for America's Team.
The End of an Era - Dec. 10, 2000 - Washington 32, Dallas 13
The Cowboys had been the team of the '90s, but the aughts didn't begin so well, with the first of three 5-11 seasons under head coach Dave Campo. Campo's hands were tied from the beginning, as franchise quarterback and future Hall of Famer Troy Aikman battled a back injury and repeated concussions throughout the year. A third-and-one from the Washington one-yard line proved to be the final snap of Aikman's career, Redskins rookie linebacker LaVar Arrington dealing him a 10th career concussion as he rolled toward the right sideline.
A Gleam of Hope - Aug. 4, 2001 - Oakland 21, Dallas 14
The Cowboys had been roundly criticized for picking Georgia quarterback Quincy Carter in the second round of the 2001 NFL Draft, but decided to hand him the franchise after an impressive preseason debut in Oakland. The Cowboys released veteran journeyman Tony Banks 11 days after Carter had 167 yards on 9-of-15 passing in not quite a quarter and a half of action against Raiders backups, connecting for touchdowns to Chris Brazzell and Bahsir Yamini. The decision to place the team in Carter's young hands helped destine the Cowboys for instability at the quarterback position for much of the decade.
Make a Place for Emmitt - Oct. 27, 2002 - Seattle 17, Dallas 14
Mired in that three-season run of 5-11 purgatory, the Cowboys franchise did have one shining moment, Emmitt Smith's ascension to the top of the NFL's all-time rushing list. Taking a handoff from rookie quarterback Chad Hutchinson, Smith followed Robert Thomas' lead block for a gain of 11 off left tackle, giving him 16,728 career rushing yards. The 2002 campaign would be Smith's last with the Cowboys, who later inducted him into their Ring of Honor alongside Aikman and Michael Irvin on Sept. 19, 2005.
See Change - Oct. 12, 2003 - Dallas 23, Philadelphia 21
The Eagles had begun the 2000 season with a surprise onside kick against the Cowboys, the first strike in a 41-14 pickle-juice aided humiliation of the home team at Texas Stadium. Leading into this Week 6 meeting for the NFC East lead, the Eagles had beaten the Cowboys in six straight games. First-year Cowboys coach Bill Parcells had his team prepared for its first big game in three seasons, which was evident from the start, as reserve wide receiver Randal Williams returned a less-surprising onside attempt 37 yards for a touchdown. The Cowboys held off Donovan McNabb's last minute comeback attempt, ushering in a brighter period for the franchise, which would make the playoffs and go on to have five winning seasons in six years to close the decade.
Biscuit's Big Play - Nov. 14, 2005 - Dallas 21, Philadelphia 20
Though the Eagles were the class of the NFC East over the last 10 years, the Cowboys became much more competitive against them as the years wore on. One of the wildest nights in team history came at Lincoln Financial Field, when the Cowboys came back from a 13-point deficit in the last 3:04 of game time, taking the lead on an ill-advised Donovan McNabb throw that safety Roy Williams returned for a 46-yard touchdown. After that six-game losing streak to begin the 2000s, the Cowboys were more competitive in the following years, going 6-7 against Sunday's opponent to close out the decade.
The Cowboys had muddled through the post-Aikman era with less-than stellar play at the most important position on the field. Carter, Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoerner, Ryan Leaf, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson and Drew Bledsoe all started games for the team after Aikman retired, but fourth-year undrafted free agent Tony Romo took over the job midway through the '06 season and hasn't looked back. When the Cowboys knocked off the previously undefeated Colts and Peyton Manning in Week 11, it became clear Romo was the franchise quarterback the team had been missing.
This list is about memorable games, and unfortunately the Wild Card playoff loss at Seattle is the one the Cowboys and their fans would most like to forget. After the Seahawks failed to convert a two-point conversion with 4:24 to play, the Cowboys needed only a field goal to advance in the playoffs. Romo drove the offense down to the Seattle two-yard line, but they couldn't get the ball in the end zone. Romo, who remained the holder for field goals after ascending to the starting job, let the potential-game winning three-point try slip through his fingers, and couldn't turn the bobbled snap into a touchdown while trying to scramble around the left end, allowing Seattle to take over possession and close out the win.
"The Better Team Lost" - Jan. 13, 2008 - New York Giants 21, Dallas 17
After rolling over the NFC in Wade Phillips' first season as head coach and earning homefield advantage throughout the playoffs with a 13-3 regular season record, the Cowboys couldn't translate their success to the postseason. After beating the Giants twice during the regular season, the Cowboys came up short in the Divisional round when Romo's desperation throw to Terry Glenn in the end zone was intercepted by R.W. McQuarters. Tough criticism of Phillips (the decade's winningest Cowboys coach) ratcheted up the next day, when he said he believed the better team had lost. New York went on to beat the previously-undefeated Patriots in Super Bowl XLII.
44-6 - Dec. 27, 2008 - Philadelphia 44, Dallas 6
Anyone who had managed to repress the toughest losses in franchise history is likely still working on this one, when the Cowboys fell flat on their face in a pre-playoff playoff game. Facing a win-and-you're-in scenario, the Cowboys turned the ball over five times as the Eagles coasted to an easy victory at The Linc. The loss only compounded frustrations from the week prior, when the Cowboys closed Texas Stadium with a heartbreaking loss to Baltimore, and brought about a tumultuous off-season in which the team let go of a couple of its best players of the decade, Williams and wide receiver Terrell Owens, who were both released on March 5.
Big Win in the Big Easy - Dec. 19, 2009 - Dallas 24, New Orleans 17
The "December Swoon" fervor was almost as deafening as the Louisiana Superdome crowd. After losing the first two games of the month to put their playoff future on the ropes and raise questions about Phillips' job security, the Cowboys faced their most daunting test of the season, playing at the 13-0 Saints in a frenzied road environment. It remains to be seen how the season will play out, but this big win will still go down as one of the Cowboys' greatest in 50 years of existence. They jumped out to an early lead, then held off a high-powered New Orleans offense with heavy pressure from DeMarcus Ware, who had been strapped to a back board and carted off the field in a scary moment just six days earlier.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Quit being a baby. When you act like a douche you're gonna be called a douche. If I act like a baby and run off for a while then im gonna be called out on it. The law of the land here.
This particular debate can go on forever...but too many references and now this COLLECTIVE VOTE pretty much cement it whether or not you want to agree. It is a matter of opinion, but the consequences and developments that would emerge after KC cannot be denied. The NO's game never has a chance to matter if it werent for us escaping KC, and Austin and our D emerging from it.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:42 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
Jhalp wrote:
Quit being a baby. When you act like a douche you're gonna be called a douche. If I act like a baby and run off for a while then im gonna be called out on it. The law of the land here.
This particular debate can go on forever...but too many references and now this COLLECTIVE VOTE pretty much cement it whether or not you want to agree. It is a matter of opinion, but the consequences and developments that would emerge after KC cannot be denied. The NO's game never has a chance to matter if it werent for us escaping KC, and Austin and our D emerging from it.
You won't let this debate go and you're calling me a baby? You started a thread on this several weeks after our debate had finally died calling me a douche because you were still stewing over it...LMFAO! You started another thread crying about this on Feb 25 click on the link. CBR only started this thread because I just pissed him off it's all part his find an idiot to back against KJJ agenda. LOL He doesn't care what someone's position is on a topic as long as it opposes mine. LOL Sorry there is no collective vote it's all a matter of opinion so GET OVER IT!
The NO's game never has a chance to matter if it werent for us escaping KC, and Austin and our D emerging from it.
There was still 11 games left to rebound had the Cowboys lost to KC. LOL They were damn near down to do or die against NO with only Washington and Philly left. Had they lost to NO as was predicted by EVERYONE the Cowboys would have been in full meltdown mode with 3 straight losses struggling for a wildcard birth. Had they got in they would have had to go to Philly and there goes our playoff win. LOL It was doom and gloom heading into NO and that unexpected win turned the Cowboys season completely around. The defense started playing lights out and the momentum from that win carried us to a division title and our first playoff win in 13 years. If you want to keep arguing over something that's based off the opinion of some little known staff writers go ahead and keep score. LOL
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Not defending Im acknowledging.
Im acknowledging the overwhelming confirmation of his side of the argument. Its actually not humanly possible for you to proven any more wrong in a debate then what we have seen with this one. Its almost like these writers have known the two of you have been debating and write the articles specifically to make you look bad. Almost creepy.
Maybe the reason your still stuck in stupid is because you simply arent grasping the concept. Your comment that I thought the win was pathetic only shows you simply have little clue as to what Jhalp was saying in the first place. Or maybe your just a irritating fool that simply takes the opposite stance of what someone is saying simply to annoy someone.
The debate has always been over the importance of the win, not the quality of the win. The win was pathetic, but the importance of the win and the way it happened is what turned around the season.
The ENTIRE coaching staff and players have said as much.
Face it pal............you've got a big scar running down your face on this one? LMFAO!!!!!
Scared for life...........ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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That would a great article for you if the debate was over defining games. the debate is about which was the most important win that turned around the season.
You would be better suited to simply admit you were wrong and move on. But we all know that being the coward that you are, there is zero chance of that happening.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
I would have no problem with KC being "THE" game had it been against a better team. KC was someone we were suppose to handle easily, we didn't. They stay in the game and could have beaten us as, turned out they didn't.
Iwas far more impressed with us handling Philly than anything we did against KC and the NO win was much bigger than any of it... Until MINN answered all other questions.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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That would a great article for you if the debate was over defining games. the debate is about which was the most important win that turned around the season.
You would be better suited to simply admit you were wrong and move on. But we all know that being the coward that you are, there is zero chance of that happening.
You better go over that debate again because it was over which game was the most "DEFINING" game last season. The staff writer who wrote the article me and Jhalp argued over listed "wins" and "losses" that were defining over the past decade for better or worse. If it was about the most "important" wins the NO win and season finale win over Philly that had the NFC East title on the line would have been 10 times more important than a win that took place in week 5 over a shit team that was 0-4 coming in...LMFAO! You're always looking for anything you can to try and prove me wrong in an argument no matter how ridiculous and this is an ultimate FAIL! LOL That debate was based purely over a matter of opinion that's varied. Each staff writer looked at the games differently and one of them listed wins and losses. One staff writer included NO and KC in their list and the other staff writer didn't list the KC game. The only significance to the KC game was Austins breakout performance that still has Jhalp all giddy. LOL That's the only reason he holds that game so near and dear to his heart.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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[..] Not defending Im acknowledging.
Im acknowledging the overwhelming confirmation of his side of the argument. Its actually not humanly possible for you to proven any more wrong in a debate then what we have seen with this one. Its almost like these writers have known the two of you have been debating and write the articles specifically to make you look bad. Almost creepy.
Maybe the reason your still stuck in stupid is because you simply arent grasping the concept. Your comment that I thought the win was pathetic only shows you simply have little clue as to what Jhalp was saying in the first place. Or maybe your just a irritating fool that simply takes the opposite stance of what someone is saying simply to annoy someone.
The debate has always been over the importance of the win, not the quality of the win. The win was pathetic, but the importance of the win and the way it happened is what turned around the season.
The ENTIRE coaching staff and players have said as much.
Face it pal............you've got a big scar running down your face on this one? LMFAO!!!!!
Scared for life...........ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no overwhelming confirmation on this argument so give it up! Are you going to tell me the KC win was more "important" than the NO win or the win over Philly in the season finale that had the NFC East Title on the line? LOL This debate was over "defining" games dufus better go back and research the argument. LOL You're always trying to prove me wrong and you end up falling flat on your face everytime. You're silll steaming over the shot I took at you the other day for sticking your nose where it didn't belong that's why you started this thread. You're always looking for some idiot to flock with with to try and wage a war against me. Everytime I have a debate with someone you always show up to take a shot and end up getting your nose bloodied. LOL
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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The debate has always been over the importance of the win, not the quality of the win. The win was pathetic, but the importance of the win and the way it happened is what turned around the season.
The ENTIRE coaching staff and players have said as much.
Face it pal............you've got a big scar running down your face on this one? LMFAO!!!!!
Scared for life...........ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The debate was always over the most "defining" game of the season last year the one where the team established character and got them on the roll we saw at the end of the season. The NO win catapulted the Cowboys into winning the division and their first playoff win in 13 years. You have no idea what the debate was about because you never closely followed it you're just creating a different argument to fit your agenda. There were players like Ware calling the NO win the most defining win the Cowboys had last season and a staff writer listed the win as one of the 10 most "defining" games of the decade so twist the argument all you want. By the way dufus you keep spelling the word "scarred">"scared". LOL You started a thread that's in the bar about misspelled names and you misspelled "misspell"....LMAO! You spelled it "mispell". You have a nerve accusing others of being stuck on stupid when you can't even spell the most common words it's no wonder you're always having your ass handed to you. LOL If you're going to start a thread about misspellings you might want to spell correctly.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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There's no overwhelming confirmation on this argument so give it up! Are you going to tell me the KC win was more "important" than the NO win or the win over Philly in the season finale that had the NFC East Title on the line? LOL This debate was over "defining" games dufus better go back and research the argument. LOL You're always trying to prove me wrong and you end up falling flat on your face everytime. You're silll steaming over the shot I took at you the other day for sticking your nose where it didn't belong that's why you started this thread. You're always looking for some idiot to flock with with to try and wage a war against me. Everytime I have a debate with someone you always show up to take a shot and end up getting your nose bloodied. LOL
there is no debate. Its over, you lose.
Your sitting here arguing with the coaches and players. They told everyone what was the most important game of the year. In a landslide they all said KC.
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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there is no debate. Its over, you lose.
Your sitting here arguing with the coaches and players. They told everyone what was the most important game of the year. In a landslide they all said KC.
argue with the team all you want. Enjoy.
Only in your delusional mind did I lose. LOL According to you I've lost every argument we've had and no one on this board has been more accurate about the team than you. There's not one player or coach that would say the KC win was a more "important" win than the win over Philly in the season finale. Only someone who's completely blind would argue that a win in week 5 over a team that was 0-4 and ended up 4-12 was a more "important" win than the one the Cowboys had over NO and especially the win over Philly the final week of the season that had the NFC East riding on it. Answer the question do you honestly believe the KC win was more "IMPORTANT" than the win over Philly in the season finale? Don't try and divert answer it! LOL Had the Cowboys lost that game they would have been limping into Philly the next week and we would have witnessed another ass kicking. The most "defining" game last season was clearly the NO game and that's been the root of this debate. That's the game that catapulted the Cowboys into the dominate team we saw the next 3 weeks. Try finding 3 straight wins in recent years where the Cowboys looked that good while giving up only 14 points. The Cowboys didn't look half as impressive in the 3 straight wins after the KC win.
Had the Cowboys lost to the Saints that would have all but given Philly the NFC East title and the Cowboys would have been battling them for a wildcard birth the final week of the season. That win over the 13-0 Saints and eventual SB champs got the Cowboys out of what had been another Dec funk and had them playing the best football we had seen by a Cowboys team since their last SB win. That was the first time in years the Cowboys finally stepped up and showed some character when they desperately needed a win and they did on the road against a great team. That win over the Saints led to back to back shutouts, a division title and our first playoff win in 13 years. There was a quote from Witten after the game calling it one of the most important wins he'd ever been apart of and Ware called the win a "defining" moment. If you want to keep arguing over something that's a matter of opinion with differing views from players and a few staff writers go right ahead and please watch your spelling you will be graded. LOL
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Only in your delusional mind did I lose. LOL According to you I've lost every argument we've had and no one on this board has been more accurate about the team than you. There's not one player or coach that would say the KC win was a more "important" win than the win over Philly in the season finale. Only someone who's completely blind would argue that a win in week 5 over a team that was 0-4 and ended up 4-12 was a more "important" win than the one the Cowboys had over NO and especially the win over Philly the final week of the season that had the NFC East riding on it. Answer the question do you honestly believe the KC win was more "IMPORTANT" than the win over Philly in the season finale? Don't try and divert answer it! LOL Had the Cowboys lost that game they would have been limping into Philly the next week and we would have witnessed another ass kicking. The most "defining" game last season was clearly the NO game and that's been the root of this debate. That's the game that catapulted the Cowboys into the dominate team we saw the next 3 weeks. Try finding 3 straight wins in recent years where the Cowboys looked that good while giving up only 14 points. The Cowboys didn't look half as impressive in the 3 straight wins after the KC win.
Had the Cowboys lost to the Saints that would have all but given Philly the NFC East title and the Cowboys would have been battling them for a wildcard birth the final week of the season. That win over the 13-0 Saints and eventual SB champs got the Cowboys out of what had been another Dec funk and had them playing the best football we had seen by a Cowboys team since their last SB win. That was the first time in years the Cowboys finally stepped up and showed some character when they desperately needed a win and they did on the road against a great team. That win over the Saints led to back to back shutouts, a division title and our first playoff win in 13 years. There was a quote from Witten after the game calling it one of the most important wins he'd ever been apart of and Ware called the win a "defining" moment. If you want to keep arguing over something that's a matter of opinion with differing views from players and a few staff writers go right ahead and please watch your spelling you will be graded. LOL
LOL.....Several coaches and several players were asked what the most important win of the season was. EVERY SINGLE ONE said KC. NONE of them said New Orleans. You must have a bad memory because both JHALP and I slammed you repeatedly as these things came out. There is NO debate, KC wins by a landslide.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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LOL.....Several coaches and several players were asked what the most important win of the season was. EVERY SINGLE ONE said KC. NONE of them said New Orleans. You must have a bad memory because both JHALP and I slammed you repeatedly as these things came out. There is NO debate, KC wins by a landslide.
You think the KC win was more "important" than the win over Philly in the season finale...LMFAO!!! Changing the original argument from what win was the most "defining" to what win was the most "important" makes this argument even more ridiculous. LOL There's not a team in the league that's ever had a win in week 5 end up being their most important win that season. You're so out of touch with reality you're saying there's no debate the victory over KC wins by a landslide. Oh yeah the Cowboys season was on the line in week 5 with no chance of recovering had they lost to the Chiefs with only 11 games to go. You always back Jhalp in the most ridiculous arguments when he's opposing me like the time you both teamed together attempting to compare Wades playoff record with Landry's. Post some links and quotes from players and coaches "AFTER the season finale win over Philly" with them saying the KC win was their most "important" win last year. Now go drift back into your coma and dream you and Jhalp are slamming everyone in arguments. LOL
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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You think the KC win was more "important" than the win over Philly in the season finale...LMFAO!!! Changing the original argument from what win was the most "defining" to what win was the most "important" makes this argument even more ridiculous. LOL There's not a team in the league that's ever had a win in week 5 end up being their most important win that season. You're so out of touch with reality you're saying there's no debate the victory over KC wins by a landslide. Oh yeah the Cowboys season was on the line in week 5 with no chance of recovering had they lost to the Chiefs with only 11 games to go. You always back Jhalp in the most ridiculous arguments when he's opposing me like the time you both teamed together attempting to compare Wades playoff record with Landry's. Post some links and quotes from players and coaches "AFTER the season finale win over Philly" with them saying the KC win was their most "important" win last year. Now go drift back into your coma and dream you and Jhalp are slamming everyone in arguments. LOL
Not everyone just you. When the entire team and the coaching staff comes out and says that the most important game of the season was the KC and its unanimous, ONLY moron like you would try to argue the contrary.
Not only that, but since that time, 2 or 3 articles have come out from beat writers saying the same thing.
NO doubt NO was the better win, but there is no doubt that the KC win is the one that turned around the season.
the conversation is over. Like always, you will have to continue to talk to yourself. LOL
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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Not everyone just you. When the entire team and the coaching staff comes out and says that the most important game of the season was the KC and its unanimous, ONLY moron like you would try to argue the contrary.
Not only that, but since that time, 2 or 3 articles have come out from beat writers saying the same thing.
NO doubt NO was the better win, but there is no doubt that the KC win is the one that turned around the season.
the conversation is over. Like always, you will have to continue to talk to yourself. LOL
There were 2 or 3 players that pointed to the KC win as the one that started righting the ship and now you have the entire team saying that game was the most "important game" of the season. You keep tweaking your claims with every post. LOL Show me one quote from a player or a coach who called the KC game the most "important game" of the season. Good luck! LOL This entire debate started because a beat writer listed the NO game as one of the 10 most defining games of the decade and they didn't even list the KC game. In the article you posted the beat writer listed the NO game but ranked the KC game higher because it was their OPINION. This entire debate is based on OPINION so let it go. LOL If the KC game was the one that turned the Cowboys season around then what happened in GB a few weeks later when they laid an egg against a struggling Packers team? If their season had turned around why did they struggle the following week barely squeaking out a one point win against a bad Washington team at home? If the Cowboys season had turned around what happened at home against San Diego in a game they needed to win? They couldn't stop the Chargers on third down all day and couldn't even pick up a fucking yard on 4th down at the goalline and you're saying the KC game turned their season around?....riiiight! LOL If their season had been turned around in KC then how come their special teams and defense broke down immediately after the loss to the Chargers in a very critical game against the struggling Giants?
Did the Cowboys who were in the middle of a 2 game losing streak look like a team who's season had turned around? The Cowboys season had turned around alright it had turned around for the worst. LOL If the Cowboys season had turned around how come you were so down on the team during those losses to the Chargers and Giants? You weren't exactly all giddy about the team. LOL The turnaround that spurred the team into winning the division and their first playoff game in 13 years came the following week against a great NO team that was undefeated and went on to win the SB. The Cowboys appeared to be down and out and ended up playing their best game of the season. That was the game that righted the ship and set the team on fire. No game the Cowboys played last season established more character than that win against a great football team in a hostile environment. Everything the Cowboys accomplished last season was made possible by that big win in NO. That win dissipated a black cloud that had been hanging over the team every Dec for over a decade. It's hilarious watching you call the KC win a more "important win/game" than the one over NO and the one over Philly that had the NFC East at stake and a home playoff game. Here's what you thought of the KC game the day after our most "important" win of last season.
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Its basically come down to me and my friends just sitting around laughing at the cowboys all day long on Sundays. They have become the joke of the NFL. I think only the horrid chiefs could actually be worse then this joke of a Cowboys team.
A total embarassment to ANY cowboys team and player thats ever put on a star.
Flozel Adams is absolutely finished. The guy sucks.
Miles Austin's day was indicitive of the team itself. 250 yards 2 TD's. A miracle day, but he dropped 3 or 4 other TD passes. He was aweful.
If Jerry doesnt fire Wade after the season then he truelly is out of his mind. Like off the rocker crazy.
This is the worst coached team EVER!!!!!
And it doesnt even matter if Felix the NAT comes back. Im sure someone will pat him on the back after a nice run and hell be out for another 5 weeks.
How stupid was the coaching staff for continuing to put Barber in the game. the guy should be in a body cast laying in a hospital somewhere. Anyone can see that. Whenever they put in choice, he made plays. then they would go back to barber for a couple series. Pathetic. Fire Wade YESTERDAY!!!!!!
There really isnt anything else to say other then................
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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A pathetic win, but the most important.
Feel free to pull up quotes from players and coaches that back up your theory.
Fact is you cant. LOL
Not only did you take a complete beating all of last year during the season and into the playoffs, but you continue to take a beating well into the offseason. LOL
One has to wonder as the Cowboys mature and move forward with this squad, will you ever recover? I guess you'll have to hope for big injuries next year. LOL
Another blood bath you took. "injuries dont count". LOL
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
CowboyRoy wrote:
A pathetic win, but the most important.
Feel free to pull up quotes from players and coaches that back up your theory.
Fact is you cant. LOL
Not only did you take a complete beating all of last year during the season and into the playoffs, but you continue to take a beating well into the offseason. LOL
One has to wonder as the Cowboys mature and move forward with this squad, will you ever recover? I guess you'll have to hope for big injuries next year. LOL
Another blood bath you took. "injuries dont count". LOL
You're the one who claimed the "entire" team called the KC game our most "important win/game" so dig up all the quotes with the entire team saying that. They should be easy to find. LOL You have nothing to back your claim up but I posted an article that backed up my claim that the NO win was our most "defining" win last season. You think every article based on "opinion" that backs your line of thinking is the gospel truth. If a beat writer is critical of the Cowboys you scoff claiming they're idiots but if one talks the Cowboys up you claim they share your sentiments. LOL Emmitt criticized the team last season and naturally you dissed his opinion then took a shot at him claiming he was nothing but a product of our OL....LMFAO! No knowledgeable fan would call the KC win a more "important" win than the one over NO or the one over Philly in the season finale but everyone knows you're not a knowledgeable fan and the archives prove it. LOL I was wrong about Austin and the Cowboys final record. Show me where you predicted Austin would pan out? LOL As for our season record you listed a range between 8 wins and 11 wins that was loaded with a bunch of injury excuses to cover your ass. You wouldn't commit to anything the entire season because you've been burned so much. Just like your waffle buddy you wanted Wade fired after the KC win but was back kissing his fat ass a few weeks later along with your WAFFLE buddy. LOL You're just another knee jerking waffler like Jhalp that's why you flock together. As for injuries the team had injuries last season where were you in another one of your drug induced comas? LOL Barber was never the same after his quad injury and Felix wasn't right for several games after a knee injury. You and your waffle buddy even went as far as to start threads dissing Felix. Jhalp claimed Felix was looking like a bust and sure enough you were right there backing him. You two are always alone on an uninhabited island in full agreement on everything while the rest of the board rolls their eyes. LOL
Even at the end of the season when Felix was looking terrific running wild all over Philly you were still questioning him being worth a first round pick...LMFAO! RW was injured last season and missed time. Colombo a key member of our OL missed several games with an injury and none of those injuries stopped the team from winning 11 games and making the playoffs. So much for your injury excuses causing the team to have a bad year.
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: Re: THIS IS FOR YOU JHALP!
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You're the one who claimed the "entire" team called the KC game our most "important win/game" so dig up all the quotes with the entire team saying that. They should be easy to find. LOL You have nothing to back your claim up but I posted an article that backed up my claim that the NO win was our most "defining" win last season. You think every article based on "opinion" that backs your line of thinking is the gospel truth. If a beat writer is critical of the Cowboys you scoff claiming they're idiots but if one talks the Cowboys up you claim they share your sentiments. LOL Emmitt criticized the team last season and naturally you dissed his opinion then took a shot at him claiming he was nothing but a product of our OL....LMFAO! No knowledgeable fan would call the KC win a more "important" win than the one over NO or the one over Philly in the season finale but everyone knows you're not a knowledgeable fan and the archives prove it. LOL I was wrong about Austin and the Cowboys final record. Show me where you predicted Austin would pan out? LOL As for our season record you listed a range between 8 wins and 11 wins that was loaded with a bunch of injury excuses to cover your ass. You wouldn't commit to anything the entire season because you've been burned so much. Just like your waffle buddy you wanted Wade fired after the KC win but was back kissing his fat ass a few weeks later along with your WAFFLE buddy. LOL You're just another knee jerking waffler like Jhalp that's why you flock together. As for injuries the team had injuries last season where were you in another one of your drug induced comas? LOL Barber was never the same after his quad injury and Felix wasn't right for several games after a knee injury. You and your waffle buddy even went as far as to start threads dissing Felix. Jhalp claimed Felix was looking like a bust and sure enough you were right there backing him. You two are always alone on an uninhabited island in full agreement on everything while the rest of the board rolls their eyes. LOL
Even at the end of the season when Felix was looking terrific running wild all over Philly you were still questioning him being worth a first round pick...LMFAO! RW was injured last season and missed time. Colombo a key member of our OL missed several games with an injury and none of those injuries stopped the team from winning 11 games and making the playoffs. So much for your injury excuses causing the team to have a bad year.
Until Felix can stay healthy and shoulder the burden of the runnng game and dominate, he will always be less then worthy of a first round pick. Maybe you disagree, but in my opinion, if you use a FRP on a RB it needs to be for a stud that can carry the load. Felix has all the potential in the world and his talent is undeniable. But until he can stay healthy and dominate and win games single handidly over a period of time, he will not be worth where he was drafted.
Keep making me laugh by acting like 2009 was similar to 2008 with injuries. LOL
Its almost uncanny to look at 2007 to 2009, compare the injuries and see a direct reflection on the injuries and the record.
But you continue to lose credibility by never admitting you were wrong.
Just curious, have you ever been wrong about anything?
Felix being the next Dorsette?
Oh wait, if healthy you said? Oh wait.......injuries dont count? LOL
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