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Apparently, there are some professional talent evaluators who don't agree with you:
Rating NFL free agency’s opening day
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Free agency brings its share of big-splash deals. It also brings questionable decisions that could haunt teams in the 2010 season and beyond. Here’s a look at significant examples:
Ravens trade for WR Anquan Boldin(notes): It’s rare to get a big, physical No. 1 target. His move will help Baltimore in many ways, foremost as a top downfield threat for strong-armed third-year quarterback Joe Flacco(notes).
In addition to the execution of the deal, GM Ozzie Newsome and Ravens officials were smart to lock up Boldin with a contract extension through 2013.
"He’s a very tough competitor and, with the way he plays with passion, he’ll fit right in with the foundation we have for our team," Newsome told reporters.
Boldin must shake off his injury history for the deal to pay off, but it’s the right kind of aggressive move for a team that’s so close to making the Super Bowl.
Bears sign Julius Peppers(notes): So much for a 3-4 team trying to move Peppers to the unfamiliar, more demanding role of outside linebacker. Instead, Peppers stays in a 4-3 front with cover-2 principles behind it, going from one Tony Dungy disciple (Ron Meeks) to another (Lovie Smith).
Like the Colts, Chicago doesn’t like to blitz, which means a pass-rushing end of Peppers’ caliber was a critical need. "For our defense to be successful, we have to get pressure with our front four," Smith said.
Although Peppers will likely line up at either end as a Bear, expect him to take on the Dwight Freeney(notes)-like role, focusing on what he does best—charging upfield and disrupting the pocket.
Falcons sign CB Dunta Robinson(notes): Atlanta was focusing on this move since the early hours of the signing period, and came through with the right five-year deal to bring home a Georgia native. The Falcons have built a good young front seven, and Robinson gives them a much-needed steady cover man.
Lions sign WR Nate Burleson(notes): It was obvious Detroit was desperate for receivers not named Calvin Johnson(notes), and had logic behind this move because Burleson performed well in a Scott Linehan-coached offense in Minnesota.
Burleson, however, wasn’t worth the price of five years, $25 million. He is often injured and never lived up to the big contract he got to return to his hometown of Seattle.
Panthers release QB Jake Delhomme(notes): "It’s been a great run," Delhomme said at an emotional press conference reacting to his surprise release. "I’m leaving with no animosity whatsoever."
It’s no surprise that the team wanted to move forward with Matt Moore(notes) as its starting quarterback after having Delhomme in that position since 20’03, but it could helped him hold back the tears by bringing back Delhomme in an uncapped year. Competition would have been healthy for Moore, and at worst, Delhomme would be an experienced backup who knows the offense well.
Bears sign RB Chester Taylor(notes): Chicago needed a versatile back to spell Matt Forte(notes) and fit well in Mike Martz’s offense, but could have found that solution in a fresh-legged rookie instead of a 30-year-old now former division foe. Even without a first- and second-round pick, the team could have gotten a good backfield value in the third, such as Southern Cal’s Joe McKnight |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:06 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| randy932 wrote: |
| Where's Joe Berger? |
Yep, give Bowman and myself props for calling this one correctly.
JJ should have never got "cute" by allowing Moore to slip through his fingers. Long term, Moore will prove to be an excellent QB. Fact. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Yep, give Bowman and myself props for calling this one correctly.
JJ should have never got "cute" by allowing Moore to slip through his fingers. Long term, Moore will prove to be an excellent QB. Fact. |
Yes, you and bowman got this one right, along with myself and spider too, and several others. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Yes, you and bowman got this one right, along with myself and spider too, and several others. |
Thanks buddy. I do recall you joining the calls for keeping Moore. However, wasn't Spidey one of the ones saying that it mattered not who the back up QB is because we had the bestest starter ever under center. LOL.  |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| I don't think I was around for this debate, but who thought Matt Moore was a bad QB? When we let him go, I thought it was possibly one of those things where other interests outweighed having him as a backup (and potential future starter) so I wasn't too disappointed. But really, I thought the guy was pretty damn good. Kind of reminded me of watching Romo as a backup during preseason... just had a feeling he would probably impress the masses some day. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:11 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| I don't think I was around for this debate, but who thought Matt Moore was a bad QB? When we let him go, I thought it was possibly one of those things where other interests outweighed having him as a backup (and potential future starter) so I wasn't too disappointed. But really, I thought the guy was pretty damn good. Kind of reminded me of watching Romo as a backup during preseason... just had a feeling he would probably impress the masses some day. |
Jhalp thought he was bad. Didn't want him kept around as competition for Romo. jhalp would rather have Romo's psych coddled.    |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Jhalp thought he was bad. Didn't want him kept around as competition for Romo. jhalp would rather have Romo's psych coddled. |
Spidey and CBR were in this camp as well if memory serves TheProphet correct.  |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| I didn't want Moore either but I wouldn't anoint him as anything special just yet. Let's see how he plays as the full time starter if he does end up being the starter next season. I would assume he would be based off his performance late last season. The Panthers did see him in action a few times before signing a struggling Delhomme who had just come off risky shoulder surgery to that big contract. Moore may end up being a real good QB but the jury is still out. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| I didn't want Moore either but I wouldn't anoint him as anything special just yet. Let's see how he plays as the full time starter if he does end up being the starter next season. I would assume he would be based off his performance late last season. The Panthers did see him in action a few times before signing a struggling Delhomme who had just come off risky shoulder surgery to that big contract. Moore may end up being a real good QB but the jury is still out. |
Was the reason you did not want Moore because you were concerned that Romo's "fragile psyche" would be damaged with the thought of having to look over his shoulder? |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Was the reason you did not want Moore because you were concerned that Romo's "fragile psyche" would be damaged with the thought of having to look over his shoulder? |
I certainly wasn't worried about Romo looking over his shoulder having Moore around. If he was worried about an undrafted rookie FA QB we have the wrong guy leading the team. LOL I really didn't see enough of Moore to get a real good feel for what kind of player he was. He appeared a little slow of foot with the few preseason snaps I saw and the fact he was an undrafted FA who ended up getting cut in favor of Richard Bartel who looked like a stiff everytime he got a snap made it appear he couldn't possibly be anything special. I have to admit Moore looked real good the final 3 games of last season. He tossed 7 TD's without a pick and his passer rating was well over a 100. Obviously as terrible as Delhomme played last season the Panthers had to make a tough decision which will result in them having to eat alot of dead money. Delhomme clearly played himself out of that job.
I'm still not sure the Panthers are totally sold on Moore but he did show some promise and I'm sure his late season performances played a big part in their decision to release Delhomme. It will be interesting to see how he plays entering the season as the starter assuming he does start. It's going to be tough for him because with the Panthers defense taking a hit with the loss of Peppers Moore may end up having to carry that team. The Panthers have the look of a team that could be playing for 2011. As we saw with Austin you have to give players a chance and not be too quick to judge. Like I said the jury is still out on Moore but he looks alot better than me and a few others here thought initially. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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I certainly wasn't worried about Romo looking over his shoulder having Moore around. If he was worried about an undrafted rookie FA QB we have the wrong guy leading the team. LOL I really didn't see enough of Moore to get a real good feel for what kind of player he was. He appeared a little slow of foot with the few preseason snaps I saw and the fact he was an undrafted FA who ended up getting cut in favor of Richard Bartel who looked like a stiff everytime he got a snap made it appear he couldn't possibly be anything special. I have to admit Moore looked real good the final 3 games of last season. He tossed 7 TD's without a pick and his passer rating was well over a 100. Obviously as terrible as Delhomme played last season the Panthers had to make a tough decision which will result in them having to eat alot of dead money. Delhomme clearly played himself out of that job.
I'm still not sure the Panthers are totally sold on Moore but he did show some promise and I'm sure his late season performances played a big part in their decision to release Delhomme. It will be interesting to see how he plays entering the season as the starter assuming he does start. It's going to be tough for him because with the Panthers defense taking a hit with the loss of Peppers Moore may end up having to carry that team. The Panthers have the look of a team that could be playing for 2011. As we saw with Austin you have to give players a chance and not be too quick to judge. Like I said the jury is still out on Moore but he looks alot better than me and a few others here thought initially. |
I hear you brother. Well stated. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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| TheProphet wrote: |
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Yep, give Bowman and myself props for calling this one correctly.
JJ should have never got "cute" by allowing Moore to slip through his fingers. Long term, Moore will prove to be an excellent QB. Fact. |
LOL....yah, Matt Moore is a stud and Romo sucks right?
Lets be honest here. You have lobbied for any and EVERY qb under the age of 28 to be either brought in or signed to replace Tony Romo including the likes of Ricky Ray and Chris Simms.
Tony Romo has turned out to be the franchise and most of these other deadbeats are still deadbeats. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Spidey and CBR were in this camp as well if memory serves TheProphet correct. |
Actually, at least in this case, your memory SUCKS BIG ONES! LOL
I coined the phrase "Joe Fucking Berger" over this ridiculous move. Remember? |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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LOL....yah, Matt Moore is a stud and Romo sucks right?
Lets be honest here. You have lobbied for any and EVERY qb under the age of 28 to be either brought in or signed to replace Tony Romo including the likes of Ricky Ray and Chris Simms.
Tony Romo has turned out to be the franchise and most of these other deadbeats are still deadbeats. |
Nobody said anything about Romo here. The fact was, Moore would have made a great backup to Romo and would have been there if something happened to him. AND by now, we probably could have gotten a pretty good draft day deal for Moore if he had still been on the roster. The fact that the Cowboys actually wanted to keep Moore but chose to chance him on the waiver wire just says how stupid the move was. Moore looked good in preseason, he was wanted by more than just the Cowboys as an UDFA so the possibility of "sneaking" him on the practice squad and keeping him there was slim to none. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Actually, at least in this case, your memory SUCKS BIG ONES! LOL
I coined the phrase "Joe Fucking Berger" over this ridiculous move. Remember? |
LOL.......nice try. I have never said one word about Matt Moore. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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I hear you brother. Well stated. |
However, your on full record for about 4 years now talking about how bad you think Romo is and how bad of a choke artist he is.
Looks like Matt Moore is going to get his chance in Carolina. I thinks its high time you became a Panther fan. LOL |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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LOL.......nice try. I have never said one word about Matt Moore. |
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I didn't say shit about you. Prophet was wrong about what he said about me and I corrected him. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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I didn't say shit about you. Prophet was wrong about what he said about me and I corrected him. |
Is Prophet right about anything? LOL |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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Actually, at least in this case, your memory SUCKS BIG ONES! LOL
I coined the phrase "Joe Fucking Berger" over this ridiculous move. Remember? |
TheProphet, for one of the rarest of occasions, stands corrected.  |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: Re: For all who thought Matt Moore is a bad QB |
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I was so right about Matt Moore. Good for me.  |
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